WerewolfImmortal wrote:

choondooga wrote:

Ugh. Twilight . . .

ummm Twilight greenlit a lot of werewolf movies so chill out!

Noooo... twilight SHAMED werewolves! The wolves are supposed to be sifters (which it apparently states in the books), and even SHIFTERS where shamed!
Seven foot tall wolves do NOT equal shifter or werewolf! I'd rather the see the werewolves be less popular with no twilight than that crap.

Roi Doberwolf wrote:

WerewolfImmortal wrote:

choondooga wrote:

Ugh. Twilight . . .

ummm Twilight greenlit a lot of werewolf movies so chill out!

Noooo... twilight SHAMED werewolves! The wolves are supposed to be sifters (which it apparently states in the books), and even SHIFTERS where shamed!
Seven foot tall wolves do NOT equal shifter or werewolf! I'd rather the see the werewolves be less popular with no twilight than that crap.

NO WOLFMAN SEEMS TO BE SHAMING A LOT OF WEREWOLF MOVIES. It looks like it's only making 8 million dollars which means it's gonna be a flop. Meanwhile New Moon's going towards 800 million. And furthermore you need to get the latest Horror hound (if it's still out. Wolfman on the cover) so you can see the different types of werewolves!

unnngghhh in your faceeee haha

zockereinstein wrote:

I don't like Twilight movies too, but I consider that they don't go against werewolves. I mean, I am sure that its success will encourage other producers to create new werewolf movies, or at least movies with werewolves in them. How the werewolves were depicted on those movies is another different subject but, who's right or wrong when you talk about something that doesn't exist?

Not "will encourage" DID ENCOURAGE.

Last edited by WerewolfImmortal (2010-02-14 11:05:48)

WerewolfImmortal wrote:

NO WOLFMAN SEEMS TO BE SHAMING A LOT OF WEREWOLF MOVIES.

Contrary to popular belief, caps lock is not cruise control for cool.

WerewolfImmortal wrote:

It looks like it's only making 8 million dollars which means it's gonna be a flop. Meanwhile New Moon's going towards 800 million. And furthermore you need to get the latest Horror hound (if it's still out. Wolfman on the cover) so you can see the different types of werewolves!

$51,627,000 made by an R-rated horror film released in February after receiving almost no hype and a very sparse marketing campaign seems damn good to me. And since when did how well a film performs at box office have anything to do with how good it is? New Moon's 800 million is proof enough of that fact.

WerewolfImmortal wrote:

unnngghhh in your faceeee haha

Twilight fans. Bastions of maturity.

WerewolfImmortal wrote:

Not "will encourage" DID ENCOURAGE.

Hopefully, these films will be better than New Moon....not that it'd be very hard mind you.

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Things we have learned:
WolfImmortal is a Twilight Fan, and thus: (a. teenage or middle age - likely not a college student or older woman (b. a female (c. defensive about her choice of books.


Roi Doberwolf and Dinobat are cool.


Excellent deduction Watson!
However, I should like to point out . . .

choondooga wrote:

Things we have learned:
WolfImmortal is a Twilight Fan, and thus: (a. teenage or middle age - likely not a college student or older woman (b. a female (c. defensive about her choice of books.


Roi Doberwolf and Dinobat are cool.


Excellent deduction Watson!
However, I should like to point out . . .

Things I've learned from Choondooga A) He's a looser virgin B) No female in the right mind would want anyone that could attack a "teenage girl" C) He's not made any good points b/c he knows the facts that Twilight and New Moon have both wooped Wolfman's tail in the box office D)It's a shame that a supposed "werewolf" fan can't acknowledge the fact that a werewolf film that he didn't like is successful and he can't rally his own nerdy looser group to make Wolfman as successful as the Twilight Saga

BOOOYAHHHHH, IN YOUR FACE!!!! AGAIN BY A GIRL!!!!

(WOW I'm great b/c the last two posts wanted to attack me insted of stating the facts that b/c of Twilight Wolfman was taken off the shelf, and Twilight's greenlited a lot of werewolf related stuff. Oh well, can't make everyone as brilliant as you. haha)

Minty please accept the fact that it's okay not to like something but to bash people because they like it is dumb. And two, the fact that you can't give Twilight a chance when it's helped a lot of werewolf stuff come out shows how unsmart you are when it comes to being a true werewolf fan. I might not have liked Skinwalker all the way, but dag I didn't bash it b/c movie people are probably looking at these websites and box office sales and if werewolf fans can't support stuff, future werewolf projects won't happen. And that's just what it is. And looking from the Wolfman trailer vs. New Moon trailer, our CGI is wayyyyy better. Listen don't hate the player hate the game.

(oh and I'm on the debate team, so you don't have a chance with me so all you lame haters go back to your Wolfman page until you can respect a great werewolf film. Toodles!!! )

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WerewolfImmortal wrote:

Things I've learned from Choondooga A) He's a looser virgin B) No female in the right mind would want anyone that could attack a "teenage girl" C) He's not made any good points b/c he knows the facts that Twilight and New Moon have both wooped Wolfman's tail in the box office D)It's a shame that a supposed "werewolf" fan can't acknowledge the fact that a werewolf film that he didn't like is successful and he can't rally his own nerdy looser group to make Wolfman as successful as the Twilight Saga

Oh, so we've entered the childish insult portion of the argument? Fun times. Let me see if I can break down your strategy....

"NO UUUUU!!!!!!!!!!111111 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!"

That about right? Personally I don't think I could have painted a better portrait of you and those like you if I hard a paint brush and a canvas.

BOOOYAHHHHH, IN YOUR FACE!!!! AGAIN BY A GIRL!!!!

Oh, goody. You're doing half of our work for us.

(WOW I'm great b/c the last two posts wanted to attack me

It doesn't mean you're great, it just means people find you and your personal views to be repellent enough to warrant snarking.

insted of stating the facts that b/c of Twilight Wolfman was taken off the shelf,

AHAHAHAHAHA!

and Twilight's greenlited a lot of werewolf related stuff.

HA! HA! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh well, can't make everyone as brilliant as you. haha)

Ha. Ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Minty please accept the fact that it's okay not to like something but to bash people because they like it is dumb. And two, the fact that you can't give Twilight a chance when it's helped a lot of werewolf stuff come out shows how unsmart you are when it comes to being a true werewolf fan.

'Unsmart?'

I'll let this part speak for itself.

For the record though, I have no problem with the fact that you like this God awful franchise. I'm not surprised really, since it was practically designed to pander to your demographic, it hits all the right buttons in all the right places at exactly the right time. It's not your fault really. We don't blame you any more than one would blame a mental patient for his insanity. It's your entire demeanor about the whole thing that's gotten everyone going.

And looking from the Wolfman trailer vs. New Moon trailer, our CGI is wayyyyy better. Listen don't hate the player hate the game.

Yes. Because CGI like, sooooo totally makes the movie. Cha. Just like Avatar....oh, wait.

Especially a movie like The Wolfman, in which the main allure of the effects is the practical make up done by Rick Baker. A master in his field paying homage to another master in his field.

(oh and I'm on the debate team,

I weep for your teammates.

so you don't have a chance with me so all you lame haters go back to your Wolfman page until you can respect a great werewolf film. Toodles!!! )

You're a gold mine of hilarity. And I'm not complementing you.

Dinobat wrote:

WerewolfImmortal wrote:

Things I've learned from Choondooga A) He's a looser virgin B) No female in the right mind would want anyone that could attack a "teenage girl" C) He's not made any good points b/c he knows the facts that Twilight and New Moon have both wooped Wolfman's tail in the box office D)It's a shame that a supposed "werewolf" fan can't acknowledge the fact that a werewolf film that he didn't like is successful and he can't rally his own nerdy looser group to make Wolfman as successful as the Twilight Saga

Oh, so we've entered the childish insult portion of the argument? Fun times. Let me see if I can break down your strategy....

"NO UUUUU!!!!!!!!!!111111 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!"

That about right? Personally I don't think I could have painted a better portrait of you and those like you if I hard a paint brush and a canvas.

BOOOYAHHHHH, IN YOUR FACE!!!! AGAIN BY A GIRL!!!!

Oh, goody. You're doing half of our work for us.

(WOW I'm great b/c the last two posts wanted to attack me

It doesn't mean you're great, it just means people find you and your personal views to be repellent enough to warrant snarking.

insted of stating the facts that b/c of Twilight Wolfman was taken off the shelf,

AHAHAHAHAHA!

and Twilight's greenlited a lot of werewolf related stuff.

HA! HA! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh well, can't make everyone as brilliant as you. haha)

Ha. Ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Minty please accept the fact that it's okay not to like something but to bash people because they like it is dumb. And two, the fact that you can't give Twilight a chance when it's helped a lot of werewolf stuff come out shows how unsmart you are when it comes to being a true werewolf fan.

'Unsmart?'

I'll let this part speak for itself.

For the record though, I have no problem with the fact that you like this God awful franchise. I'm not surprised really, since it was practically designed to pander to your demographic, it hits all the right buttons in all the right places at exactly the right time. It's not your fault really. We don't blame you any more than one would blame a mental patient for his insanity. It's your entire demeanor about the whole thing that's gotten everyone going.

And looking from the Wolfman trailer vs. New Moon trailer, our CGI is wayyyyy better. Listen don't hate the player hate the game.

Yes. Because CGI like, sooooo totally makes the movie. Cha. Just like Avatar....oh, wait.

Especially a movie like The Wolfman, in which the main allure of the effects is the practical make up done by Rick Baker. A master in his field paying homage to another master in his field.

(oh and I'm on the debate team,

I weep for your teammates.

so you don't have a chance with me so all you lame haters go back to your Wolfman page until you can respect a great werewolf film. Toodles!!! )

You're a gold mine of hilarity. And I'm not complementing you.

by this post it's obvious Choondooga, Minty, and this Dinobat are the same person b/c I wasn't talking to Dinobat at all. SOOOOO BUSTED!!!! Find something else to do! Why don't you read the Wolfman novel.

Choondooga is a female.


Booyah?

WerewolfImmortal wrote:

Haha, you know you'll never get the real answer. I know some of my brother's friends have Spice Girls "2 become 1" in their Ipods. Spice Girls rules by the way, and some people didn't like them. The point I'm making is that your post is just not too strong b/c it also depends on the company, success of dvd sales, etc. I like that old 80s movie with the boy in the wheelchair but I don't own it. Doesn't mean I don't like it. I like Wolfman, but I probably won't buy it. The original Wolf Man, I NEED TO GET THAT. Oh and I'm thinking about Blood and Chocolate! <I DON'T WANNA HEAR IT!!!! I LIKE THE COMIC BOOK ASPECT OF IT and I might wanna own a chocolate shop like them later on. haha>

This isn't an answer I'm expecting to "get" at any point, as I honestly have better things to do with my life than monitor the matter lol.  My post wasn't referring to sales figures, which is why I used the words 'appreciation' and 'cherish'.  In the end, box office numbers, dvd sales, and marketing blitz mean nothing with regard to my personal preference for films.  Titanic and Avatar dominate the box office charts, but you won't catch me watching those more often than the Evil Dead films years from now.

My point is what will people be more inclined to watch again ( whether or not they own them ), regardess of how well the film banked in revenue?  In particular, which of the above werewolf flicks will people continue to appreciate?

I liked the original Wolf Man, and Blood and Chocolate too, so no hard feelings.  I own a copy of Blood and Chocolate, but not the original Wolf Man.  That hasn't kept me from maintaining my appreciation for it though.  And I'll give the Spice Girls this much credit, whoever handled their marketing was a genius.

I don't know why you guys are even trying. We all know Stephanie Meyer can't write, so it follows logically that the films suck. Leave the Twilight troll to roll in her own Edward-induced drool and let us leave it at that.

Now let us return to the topic at hand.
Some reasons why New Moon and Twilight are pretty awful:

1) Jacob and Edward = Pedowolf and Pedovamp.
2) Even the actors didn't realise what they were getting into and now want to bail.
3) Feel sorry for Robert Pattinson, his acting career will now forever be scarred by his reputation as a) just a pretty face and b) a sparkling vampire.
4) The story is a drawn out period of Mary-Sue-esque constant unwarranted teenage angst.
5) Its' intrinsic worth is for pure comedy value only.

ShadyHowl wrote:

I don't know why you guys are even trying. We all know Stephanie Meyer can't write, so it follows logically that the films suck. Leave the Twilight troll to roll in her own Edward-induced drool and let us leave it at that.

Sounds like a plan.

^ Reminds me of the team I joined on FaceBook: "Team Edward? Team Jacob? How about team shut-the-f**k-up?"

choondooga wrote:

ShadyHowl wrote:

I don't know why you guys are even trying. We all know Stephanie Meyer can't write, so it follows logically that the films suck. Leave the Twilight troll to roll in her own Edward-induced drool and let us leave it at that.

Sounds like a plan.

No more poking troll? Aww... *hangs head and arm with stick in sorrow*


Moving on, to enphasize on my point of the wolves of New Moon NOT being 'werewolves'...
I shall quote the website (that I visited at the great cost of many braincells x.x) :

"While talking to the Volturi in Breaking Dawn, Edward reveals that the wolves of La Push are actually "shape-shifters" and not true werewolves.[1] The original Quileute shape-shifters apparently could have taken the form of any animal, but chose wolves. It is unknown if the Children of the Moon share the same attributes as the wolf shape-shifters. At the bonfire in Eclipse, the Quileutes say that shape-shifters are a natural enemy of vampires when telling their legend of the original tribe of shape-shifters who suddenly felt antagonism when they smelled a vampire's scent."