Now, the whole controversy over a surgical transformation. I believe that with the proper research and materials, it could be quite possible. The only problem is the cost, and the massive amounts of time to swap bones,including the skull, and finding big enough bones (possibly prosthetics?).

Then the years of physical, and mental therapy.

Thinking of it, it could make the perfect soldier.. a real 'dog of war'. Heh, imagining waking up and seeing your comrades gget torn apart by that.

well, Bible or Science, humans HAVE evolved.. animals HAVE evolved. More for adaptation, and all shifting is really, is adapting to a new environment (more likely hostile, or the 'need to hunt' as portrayed in movies, or just for the sheer joy of it) in a quickened state, replacing years for seconds.

Notice, the cause or provoking of most shifts is either anger, sadness, or in some cases boredom. Any of these provokes the inner animal to come out, a fight-or-flight affect. So if there were a physical change, that too would be affected by emotions, if it were at will.

LycanJayBoy wrote:

Notice, the cause or provoking of most shifts is either anger, sadness, or in some cases boredom. Any of these provokes the inner animal to come out, a fight-or-flight affect. So if there were a physical change, that too would be affected by emotions, if it were at will.

That's not necessarily true.  Alot of therians (including me) don't shift from notmal chemical state changes, but because of a sort of internal "pressure buildup".  My shifts aren't affected by emotions from what I can tell, and that's a common thing.  I think a physical change, because of its intensive nature, would not be caused by emotions but intense meditation and such.

Now, I think I should point out: the vast majority of therians are extremely skeptical of P-Shifting claims, even though there is a debate over its possibility.  There have been a few cases of people claiming to be able to P-Shift, but there has never been a documented case of P-Shifting, and by that I mean: No one has ever offered enough proof to have reasonable belief, in fact, the vast majority of them don't offer any proof at all.

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I've always dreamed about p-shifting since I was a child, it's always something I've wanted loads.

Beta9 wrote:

Well there isn't much proof maybe because the fact that in the event that a P-shifter shows he cans shift, government officials may want to experiment or at least find the reason for this shift and if it can be used to (as LycanJayBoy said) make the perfect soldier. P-shifters might fear being attacked and feared as well as killed or tested on.

That's a common argument, however: if you can P-Shift but are afraid of people finding out, why would you say you could in the first place?   In any case, it's not only this.  Many claim to have found the secret to P-Shifting, but either they use this lame argument (which doesn't actually work if it's a ritual) or some other excuse, or they give you a ritual which doesn't work and usually doesn't make any sense.  I know a bit about this, as I have spent a good deal of time researching the subject and trying to figure out how to do it, so take it from me: it cannot easily be done, if at all.

...what?

Lupen> I've heard a few stories like that, I usually chalk them up to over-exaggerated accounts of clinical Lycanthropy.

I know, I was just saying, that's how I take them.

True, but there's a possibility of gene's being mixxed//swapped with other for some odd reason.
Damned aliens.

Hmm, like dogs and wolves?

So, in a literall sense, anything is possible?
Except for the mass amoutns of time it takes for adaption. Think of P-Shifting of soehow adapting, in some way (any-don't feel like listing) without the obstacle of many years.