Aye, dogs and wolves (there's some controversy as to whether they should be considered two species at all), lions and tigers, horses and donkeys, horses and zebras, etc.

Also, I've never seen much consideration that horizontal gene transfer (via viruses) has occurred in organisms more complex than plants. At that point, it seems to turn into pure speculation.

Hmm...that would be interesting - sounds messy......

Not virus, but maybe a gene, or chemical, coaxing change in the embryo? I've heard of studies having given chickens extra segments in the bones of their tails.

SherlawkDragon wrote:

LycanJayBoy wrote:

I've heard of studies having given chickens extra segments in the bones of their tails.

You could probably do that with something in today's technology, though it'd be hard without Stem Cells....

Well, I know for a fact it wasn't Stem Cells, but some form of radiated gene, bringing out a strand of DNA related to dinsosaurs. The result was a chicken with a slightly longer tail.

I think that while it would be possible, if totally unethical despite that it might sound cool, to create a human-wolf hybrid by playing with an embryo's DNA (not saying we could just leap in and do it if it wasn't immoral, it would take quite a bit of research) I doubt that it would ever be possible with our technology to allow someone to shift between being human and something else, not including if you were to use radiation, stem cells, extremely advanced and risky surgical techniques and other such things to make a permanent change of course.

I don't find anything about genetic manipulation unethical; humans do it to "lower life forms" all the time. Why shouldn't we take the next step and mess with our own DNA?
That being said, genetic engineering is not an exact science, that is, you can't make a very specific change without knowing exactly which genes do what, (Which we don't.) Plus, I really doubt that you could cross a human with a wolf no matter what you do, as the two species have a different number of chromosomes.

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lupen the wolf wrote:

I don't find anything about genetic manipulation unethical; humans do it to "lower life forms" all the time. Why shouldn't we take the next step and mess with our own DNA?

You sound like Andrew Ryan and Fontaine from Bioshock.....

That being said, genetic engineering is not an exact science, that is, you can't make a very specific change without knowing exactly which genes do what, (Which we don't.) Plus, I really doubt that you could cross a human with a wolf no matter what you do, as the two species have a different number of chromosomes.

That was part of my point, it's not easy to, and even if you do change the DNA in enough of someone's cells, cells need to grow into place, which takes years and doesn't happen uniformly.  If you want to transform someone, DNA alone won't do it.

This is all getting off topic though.  What you guys are talking about is not P-Shifting, but ways to create the fictional werewolf or something like it.  P-Shifting is a type of shift where a therian goes through clear and notable physical changes.

Force of will, huh? Well, I myself have gained a measure of control over my body, but I don't know of any one to actually change shape....

Are you referring to The Magick of Shapesifting?  See the link for info.

Actually, no. It's this one...
http://www.lulu.com/content/2102874
I've talked to the guy and he is very nice and informative, as far as if it is the real deal, I don't know, i've not worked up the courage to buy it and try it.

Hahahaha, ok, someone with nothing to lose go ahead and buy it. If we don't hear from you again, we'll assume the worse...

WalMart?

I have a game based on that concept... it's kind of a dystopian-future wild-west digimon type thing...