Yes, I can't wait to see Sherlawk's photoshop skills in action either!

Aye, and I'm still waiting for the punch line.

here is a few key issues with shifting (1. our government) don't think for a second they wont wanna cut you up (2. religious radicals) do you really want to be chased around with pitchforks because they think your a demon or something (3. animal control)

im not even gonna go into the rest of the issues but lets just say you better learn how not to sleep while your at it and learn to become one hell of an escape artist, lets not forget you gotta become bullet proof also

now besides all that, i myself would take the risk, simply because, i would do what i think is the only smart thing for a (p-shifter) to do
Move to Africa, shift, and live out the rest of my life as a top predator as far away from civilization as possible and say gently caress you to this horrible inbred corporate landscape.

just a note, i think a raccoon form is safe.. make yourself a doggie door and watch out for that scary white truck lol

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similar strength, much better dexterity and higher intelligence, may have a problem against a pack of lions tho.
not to mention i sad "a top predator" not "the top predator". a werewolf would probably have a problem with most aggressive pack animals, assuming he or she ran into the majority of the pack

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WolfVanZandt wrote:

I would say that sums it up pretty well.

If you read anything but fiction, the shifts involved with "Werewolves" after the 15th century were hallucinations involving mental illness, When they actually started studying those people, they ended up being reall sick puppies.

Before the 15th century all the shifts that were recorded and described wre astral shifts - shamanic practices in which the material body didn't change at all. If there were astral shifts, I will guarantee you there were mental shifts and phantom shifts. In other words, the ancient Werewolves functioned exactly like modern day Therians - no p-shifts.

Again, all historical, first-hand recorded shifts have been astral and mental. All recorded p-shifts have been hearsay - or am I wrong?

Did you change your opinion? Or are you saying that you are insane/halllucinating?

I find p-shifting to be very unlikely but strange things do happen, like the transgendered turkey. (at least I think that was real...)
So you can say I have a minor belief.

Same here... about transgendered turkeys...

lupinealchemist wrote:

I find p-shifting to be very unlikely but strange things do happen, like the transgendered turkey. (at least I think that was real...)
So you can say I have a minor belief.

Goats can also be transgender-ed. A friend of ours has a female who believes she is a billy- beard and all. He now uses her to indicate when the other does are ready.

On Topic.
I find it difficult to believe p-shifting could happen. For some of the basic reasons that have been noted. Mainly the energy usage that cannot be replaced fast enough via our current digestive system, and I imagine the mitochondria would have to heat up immensely (even more energy) and that would risk damaging tissues such as the brain.

However, I find the bilocation theory and the astral projection theory interesting!

SlushPuppy wrote:

On Topic.
I find it difficult to believe p-shifting could happen. For some of the basic reasons that have been noted. Mainly the energy usage that cannot be replaced fast enough via our current digestive system, and I imagine the mitochondria would have to heat up immensely (even more energy) and that would risk damaging tissues such as the brain.

I like this argument. Call me naive, but with the recent advances in technology and medicine, there can be a pill or a vaccination to those who really wanted the power to p-shift in the future that will prevent tissue damage etc. But for me, m-shifting would be the best thing, especially because half of my family believes in  Exorcist - style demonic possession.

Actually, ever since you mentioned it Sherlawk, I have been doing some research, and I realised that there are a LOT of people out there who claim they can p-shift, at least partly. The school of shifting, the shifting database, and pretty much every pack website out there all claim that they can actually p-shift. Some have even done a pretty good job of explaining it scientifically too. hmm. I don't know.

People on the Internet say they can p-shift. The Weres I know in real life (and that's a considerable number) all deny that Weres can p-shift. It's very convenient on the Internet that no one can hold you to what you say.

Personally, I think someone had a little too much time on their hands. It's very well detailed, but we can only go so far.

I meant that the laws of physics are whats holding us back from a "regular" p-shift.