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#1 2011-12-20 15:21:58

ShadyHowl
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Self-acceptance problems :/

I know this is horribly out-of-place on this forum, with all its teenagers desperately crying 'pleeeeeeease say I'm a therian lol!' But I'm still having problems accepting the therianthropy in myself and not hating and suppressing it. Some of you are already aware that I'm a reluctant therian - I know how I feel but because it's not how society expects me to feel or considered conventional or 'normal' I can't help but feel ashamed of it and want to hide it on some level. It gives me headaches and bruxism to hide it and ignore it but I can't help it, it's just so 'weird' and even more so in Britain, where literally nobody seems to be a therian.

I feel lonely in how I feel about it too since even the therians on this forum seem to tote the 'therian and proud' line or at least seem not-bothered. But I can't help but feel out-of-place and indifferent towards it, despite knowing its who I really am.

Anyone else have these moments of self-rejection in their lives? Any advice for accepting the therianthropy rather than simply viewing it as weird or shameful?

I guess it doesn't help that I'm trying to get into a career in law; a sector dominated by uber-conventional mainstreamers....


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#2 2011-12-20 17:54:48

WolfVanZandt
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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

Ooh! Law! Cool! There needs to be more Therians in law.

Fact is, like most personal issues, the right approach to your problem is the approach that works for you. I don't think anyone is going to be able to tell you how to deal with it - although there are some people that might be able to help you work through it but they're going to have to be pretty accessible to you. What works for me is "just do it". There's an art to letting go and it's not as easy as it sounds, but if you can get the hang of it, it can work wonders.

Therianthropy, by mundane standards, is weird - but I know of absolutely no rational basis for considering it shameful. If you can work through what's causing you to feel that it's shameful, I think you'll see that it's pretty flimsy and maybe that will help.

And although I absolutely do not think that meditation is a good tool for self exploration, it's a great thing for calming your mind and spirit so you can rationally address issues like this.

Usually problems like that are associated with a lot of self talk, most of it self-deprecating. If that's a problem, if you can train yourself to be more positive as to what takes place in your head when your not thinking deliberately, you might be a lot way toward cracking the problem.

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#3 2011-12-20 19:09:51

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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

My mind wonders a lot. In order for my therianthropy to show itself, I usually have to be in the right mindset or influence. Since I live in an environment that consists of main-streamers, I'm mostly dormant. Although, lack of sleep can make things chaotic.

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#4 2011-12-21 18:57:23

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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

Heh, I can  certainly identify with the lack of sleep thing. I'll be glad when I retire and can get my biological clock set up right.

I don't repress my therianthropy much at all and I'm an apartment dweller. You'd think my neightbors would complain about the growling and low level howling and occasional very loud snarls when I stump my toe and such but I've been there for 15 years and my neighbors and landlords seem to like having me live there.

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#5 2011-12-24 01:14:42

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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

I reckon landlords like anyone who pays the rent on time, especially if it is a long term tenant. Financial stability is important to everyone, and renting can bring in an incredibly fickle income.

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#6 2011-12-25 04:03:57

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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

I know what you mean about self-acceptance problems. I have them too. I have this tendency of shaking my head and saying "was my life not looking hard enough that I have THIS too?" It actually made me push it away as much as I could, which was really hard for me, because my aunt is OBSESSED with wolves and has them EVERYWHERE, so they're very much seen as her thing. It also made it very disconcerting growing up, and I think I have to admit that this is the first time I've talked about it...ever, online or otherwise.

Unfortunately for me, I think I just got thrown out of the therian closet, because the Chovihani is visiting, and she's been staring at me and dropping hints and attempting to pull phantom tail, and she's been in private discussion with my Dat and Grandmother for hours.

So no, you are not alone. For me it's been a private struggle. How have you dealt with it, if at all?

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#7 2011-12-27 11:37:33

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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

Viva wrote:

Unfortunately for me, I think I just got thrown out of the therian closet, because the Chovihani is visiting, and she's been staring at me and dropping hints and attempting to pull phantom tail, and she's been in private discussion with my Dat and Grandmother for hours.

I was with you up until this part. What does it mean?


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#8 2011-12-27 18:18:05

WolfVanZandt
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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

I notice that a lot fo Therians have a "wanting to fit in" problem but I hope that's going to deminish after the Therian community gets better established and it becomes more acceptible to be a Therian/Were - one thing I (and other Therians) am working toward, and one reason I'm not secretive about my therianthropy.

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#9 2011-12-30 03:50:59

John Anchondo
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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

@WolfVanZandt, I think Therians have a "wanting to fit in" problem because of the fact they feel alone.


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#10 2011-12-30 06:33:21

ShadyHowl
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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

WolfVanZandt wrote:

I notice that a lot fo Therians have a "wanting to fit in" problem but I hope that's going to deminish after the Therian community gets better established and it becomes more acceptible to be a Therian/Were - one thing I (and other Therians) am working toward, and one reason I'm not secretive about my therianthropy.

I don't think it's ever going to be accepted as 'normal'. I've only told 2 people about it in the years I've known... before that I guess other people just wrote it off as a peculiar 'quirk' about me or somesuch. Even the people I told were a bit... sceptical about the whole thing. But like all things that defy scientific explanation (for now) I think it's going to be rejected as a whole by mainstream 'normal' people.


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#11 2011-12-30 18:37:16

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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

Well, I didn't say "Normal" - "Normal" is overrated and "abnormal" is much more acceptible now than it was, say 20 years ago. Diversity is appreciated by a lot of people. I said "accepted" and, for instance, I'm completely accepted in my town - or, atleast, I perceive no lack of acceptance. There's no reason why that can't be everywhere else in the US and other developed countries."

Most adult Therians who feel alone probably shouldn't. There are usually many moren Therians around than they realize and it just takes a little sleuthing to find them.

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#12 2012-01-01 19:20:47

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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

Oh hey, this looks like an interesting discussion...

You should talk to Savage from the old Werelist: I seem to recall her saying something about her "inner mountain lion" being "evil" in a thread about eating roadkill...

*Reads through the rest of the thread...*


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#13 2012-01-03 18:35:16

WolfVanZandt
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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

heh.....not "evil", just misunderstood - actually, I would say "mountain-lionish". I think she would say "vicious if provoked." Frankly, I like her mountain lion side.

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#14 2012-01-03 20:45:49

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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

Mmm it's not that I find my were-side evil, though, I'm just angsty and emo about the fact it's there at all, and I'm 'ZOMG SO DIFFERNT'.

Shouldn't suppress it, I guess.

I was forced to eat my words, WVZ, when today I picked up a mainstream magazine here and it had a sensitive and thought-provoking article about Otherkin that had a little mention of therianthropy. It seems exposure is happening, albeit slowly.


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#15 2012-01-04 18:52:13

WolfVanZandt
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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

Ooh. I'd like to see that. Do you remember which magazine it was in?

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#16 2012-01-04 18:59:21

ShadyHowl
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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

Yeah, there was a 3-page discussion about Otherkin in this month's Fortean Times, a British magazine about weird phenomena. They also had the alleged 200-year old preserved body of a genuine adult lycanthrope "homo lupus" and a supposed preserved werewolf foetus this month, with pictures. No idea what to make of it, article was very unbiased, either a very cool hoax or something more intriguing.

I must stress it was mainly discussing otherkin such as unicorns or elves and only had the briefest mention of therians but the article was so sensitively written I was genuinely impressed, given how outlandish the whole scene appears to mainstreamers.


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#17 2012-01-05 19:00:55

WolfVanZandt
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Re: Self-acceptance problems :/

Ah, maybe not significant enough to dig up.... Anyway, the Fortean Times tends to really emphasize the New Age. I used to love the Charles Fort books (still do but I don't have that much time to read anymore.) The Twilight series is really pinging on the church circuits. I'm tracking some of the videos on YouTube and posting comments to discourage Christian organizations from supporting these screwloose televangelists who are flapping their jaws about things they know little or nothing about.

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