Hahahahaha. Wolfaboo? I've never heard that term before. Are you referring to the types that are all like "WEREWOLVES AREN'T MONSTERS!!11!1!!" all the time..? ![]()
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Totalimmortal wrote:
Hahahahaha. Wolfaboo? I've never heard that term before. Are you referring to the types that are all like "WEREWOLVES AREN'T MONSTERS!!11!1!!" all the time..?
Well technically wolfaboo refers to people who obsess about wolves to the point of stupidity, but I consider the two linked and use the term when referring to those kinds of people as well. Werewolfaboo doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
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RadRed21 wrote:
zockereinstein wrote:
Viergacht wrote:
I am so sick of werewolves being played by german shepherd mixes. They don't even look like real wolves. Bunch of lazy, cheap bastards.
Well, what I really miss from such movies is the "monster". I mean, the hulking furry beast with razorsharp claws, bestial head and red eyes. For me a wolf will never be a "monster" even when some bad journalism use the image of the "evil predator" for its own means (e.g. what happened in Alaska some time ago, as an excuse to begin hunting wolves again).
And I agree with you... if you are going to show a "bad wolf", please, use at least a real wolf, not a doggie.i think we just have to accept the "monster" werewolf is a thing of the past. it's always the same excuse. budgets. it seems noone can afford to put effort into making a werewolf look like a werewolf, or to be more accurate, noone is interested in trying to afford it.
in terms of the "wolf" used for vamp diaries, well... it looked meaner than true blood's werewolves at least.
You're right. Let's face it, a werewolf will never be as cheaper as a cheap vampire (= a pair of fake fangs).
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zockereinstein wrote:
RadRed21 wrote:
zockereinstein wrote:
Well, what I really miss from such movies is the "monster". I mean, the hulking furry beast with razorsharp claws, bestial head and red eyes. For me a wolf will never be a "monster" even when some bad journalism use the image of the "evil predator" for its own means (e.g. what happened in Alaska some time ago, as an excuse to begin hunting wolves again).
And I agree with you... if you are going to show a "bad wolf", please, use at least a real wolf, not a doggie.i think we just have to accept the "monster" werewolf is a thing of the past. it's always the same excuse. budgets. it seems noone can afford to put effort into making a werewolf look like a werewolf, or to be more accurate, noone is interested in trying to afford it.
in terms of the "wolf" used for vamp diaries, well... it looked meaner than true blood's werewolves at least.You're right. Let's face it, a werewolf will never be as cheaper as a cheap vampire (= a pair of fake fangs).
YEAH, WELL Wes Craven's been around for a while and that werewolf in Cursed could have been better, the CGI at times was lame. Underworld did well.
Prosthetic monsters are out right now anyway. When they come back in werewolves might have a shot, but the director's gotta be a werewolf fan. Underworld was sorta indy (yet it wasn't ) I think that's why it worked. Wolfman did a good job.
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Viergacht wrote:
I am so sick of werewolves being played by german shepherd mixes. They don't even look like real wolves. Bunch of lazy, cheap bastards.
Agree. It's disappointing.
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I'm probably gonna miss by a long shot, but there's that glimmer. I'm hoping there's a part of Mason Lockwood that is still alive and is regrowing his heart back.
That way he can come back on the show!!!
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i see u like Mason.... with all the money that the show is making they couldn't make it look decent..... but i guess they figured they couldn't bc of the younger ppl that watch it. idk, it should be much better than what it is now.
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Mitch01 wrote:
i see u like Mason.... with all the money that the show is making they couldn't make it look decent..... but i guess they figured they couldn't bc of the younger ppl that watch it. idk, it should be much better than what it is now.
Yes, MASON!!!! I'm hoping he's like Wolverine and will wake up soon. They changed a lot about werewolves in the show so...
It looks decent for tv and for the notice. A lot of stuff they do for movies takes months to perfect and they don't have that luxury.
what doesn't look decent? It looks great to me. The vampire effects are great, the werewolf eye effect is GREAT
iT'S WAY BETTER THAN THE BOOK. I don't see how anyone bought the books.
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the december 9 episode is title "By the light of the moon". guess that's an obvious hint. i'm still hoping that since they hid most of mason's transformation that they're gonna put SOME effort into the tf process for tyler. I'm not holding out for much since we already know the end result is a dog, but it's still nice to imagine.
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RadRed21 wrote:
the december 9 episode is title "By the light of the moon". guess that's an obvious hint. i'm still hoping that since they hid most of mason's transformation that they're gonna put SOME effort into the tf process for tyler. I'm not holding out for much since we already know the end result is a dog, but it's still nice to imagine.
I bet on hidden TF. It is cheaper, like scriptwiters' mind xD. Well, sorry for the bad joke, but they have no need to spend money on that.
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okay, don't get mad. Why DO WE NEED TO SEE THE TRANSFORMATION. I liked using my imagination when Mason was in the truck. Especially if it's a lot of money.
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truthfully i don't need a detailed transformation, especially since it's a wolf form they take on i would never expect something along the lines of AWIL or something similar. Just a couple effects that show his shifting would be enough for me. just as long as they don't show his shadow doing the changing. i hate it when shows do that
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I think the viewers need to see some kind of transformation, since he's part of the cast and everything. I doubt it'll be that detailed though, since it is an hour long show and they probably have other parts of the story to tell. If I had to guess, I think it'll be enough to show him becoming the wolf, since this is his first time.
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WereWolfH wrote:
okay, don't get mad. Why DO WE NEED TO SEE THE TRANSFORMATION. I liked using my imagination when Mason was in the truck. Especially if it's a lot of money.
You can also try not to watch the episode... just use also your imagination. Why DO WE NEED TO SEE THE EPISODE. I prefer to see what happens. Sorry, I wasn't intended to be sarcastic, just pointing out that on TV and cinema, the "visual fact" is mandatory. I mean, for example, I love to read books, and in that case you need your imagination a lot. Well, in the end it's a matter of preferences. I like a werewolf show much more if there's some TF in it.
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RadRed21 wrote:
truthfully i don't need a detailed transformation, especially since it's a wolf form they take on i would never expect something along the lines of AWIL or something similar. Just a couple effects that show his shifting would be enough for me. just as long as they don't show his shadow doing the changing. i hate it when shows do that
AWIL transformation is now dated. Everyone knows how the transformations work and THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS on the transformations technologies . I was about to say go with the shadow transforming. It's easier and cheaper.
Werewolf fans have GOT to compromise so that we get more at least C+ werewolf movies (let's face it, most werewolf movies are crap), and then we'll start to see money put towards the werewolf movies.
Still hoping Mason comes back, but as of the wiki Vampire Diaries, he's dead. (Also, basing this on the LAMMMMEEEE WAY THEY KILLED ALL THE Cool vampires like Anna and her mom WTF)
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I try so hard to like this show. Even caught the (next to) last one with the new werewolf dude. Meh. It's tough wading through all that exaggerated 'angst'.
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furthermore, the show seems to be doing extremely well, so i feel the money is definitely there for them to put some effort into tyler's transformation. being human did it and they were not established when they started, so I really don't see why it's that difficult. obviously the focus of the show will be vampires, so they don't have to put efforts into the werewolf tf every episode
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WereWolfH wrote:
Mitch01 wrote:
i see u like Mason.... with all the money that the show is making they couldn't make it look decent..... but i guess they figured they couldn't bc of the younger ppl that watch it. idk, it should be much better than what it is now.
Yes, MASON!!!! I'm hoping he's like Wolverine and will wake up soon. They changed a lot about werewolves in the show so...
It looks decent for tv and for the notice. A lot of stuff they do for movies takes months to perfect and they don't have that luxury.
what doesn't look decent? It looks great to me. The vampire effects are great, the werewolf eye effect is GREAT
iT'S WAY BETTER THAN THE BOOK. I don't see how anyone bought the books.
the Vampire effects are great, but maybe its bc im a werewolf fan and i want to SEE it, how they portray their "wolf". the eye thing, yes that i will def agree, it's awesome ![]()
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For those of you who were wondering if they're going to put any effort into showing Tyler's werewolf transformation for the Dec. 9th episode, the answer is: Yes.
Here's some quotes I've read online to confirm it:
-- When Mason transformed into a werewolf, we only got to see the before and after. We watched as he attempted to take sedatives and chain himself up, and we heard him scream in agony... but most of the transformation occurred after he'd climbed into his truck, out of sight. When Tyler transforms, we're going to see the whole thing.
-- The guy who plays Tyler also confirms this: "You're gonna get the whole enchilada, It's not quick. It isn't something that just happens; it's ongoing, especially because it's his first transformation."
-- He also said this: "You're going to see, it's just a constant thing that he's fighting as he's going through it." "It's long and it's painful."
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well, tonight's episode indicated that the first transformation takes hours. they were watching a video of mason's first tf. of course conveniently mason flailed about enough so the camera kept getting knocked off focus. i still have to wonder how much detail can be put into a tf that ends in a full on wolf. perhaps it's just that it takes hours for the organs inside to shift and that's what's so painful. but guess we'll see. they're certainly playing up the painful side of it, which I do like about werewolf tf's so hopefully it turns out good
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Hmm... I may watch this!
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More confirmation about the werewolf transformation, from one of the executive producers, in a LA Times online article:
Tyler will finally wolf out during the Dec. 9 episode. If you think the wait for new episodes will be torturous, the transformation period will be even more torturous for Tyler. “We’ll learn a lot about the mythology and the rules of the transformation over the next two episodes before we actually see it. “You’ll learn that while it gets a little bit easier the more you do it, the first time is not easy.†She adds that the show will not shy away from that painful process. “We wanted to show that in its entirety and really make the most of that because it’s a very, very difficult thing that Tyler is going have to go through and we wanted the audience to be able to experience it with him for the first time.â€
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considering i thought they'd just show some fangs, a few convulsions, and mostly just Trevino yelling in pain, i thought it was ok. coming from a show like tvd, and the end result just being a wolf, i didn't think those couple of morphs would even be there. so it's ok
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I kept falling asleep so I'll have to rewatch it. I was too tired that night. darn
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Didn't like it that much (thanks for the link btw). Way too drawn out, stupid arm cracking backwards for no reason (though hey, maybe you could say it was just first transformation spasms or something...
). Cool fangs at the end there, but then the clip stopped before the full transformation?
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